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Pavel Matrosen-Stabsgefreiter

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Posted: 12 June 2007 at 17:47 | IP Logged
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Type VIIC Diagram - appears to be equipped with a later-war "heavy" tower, with an aft 37mm and twin side-by-side 20mm emplacements, as well as other fittings like schnorchel and the like.
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Panther44 Bootsmannmaat


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Posted: 13 June 2007 at 00:12 | IP Logged
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Perhaps a VIIC/41??? Nice one Pavel!
Edited by Panther44 on 13 June 2007 at 03:29
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Panther44 Bootsmannmaat


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Just aft of the forward tubes, (looking at side view) on the deck there appear to be four 'caps' covering four cylinders/cannisters does anyone know what these are?
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Pavel Matrosen-Stabsgefreiter

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At first I thought they might be torpedo loading hatches then I realized there's no way that'd work. I've got no clue what those are but would like to find out as well.
Not sure if this is a Type VIIC/41, but it definately has a later-war model tower and fittings. So that could be a good bet for it being a C/41 or even C/42.
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dbauer Bootsmannmaat


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Hi Guys!
Pavel, you have a diagram of a late war Type VIIC/41. The tower is the first clue. The other clue is the late "sonar" device on the lower bow. This device was a very late addition. Also the canisters are for emengency life boats. There were no C/42's finished during the war.
Edited by dbauer on 13 June 2007 at 03:15
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Panther44 Bootsmannmaat


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Thanks Dan
Didn't even notice the sonar bulge. I take it the life raft cannisters are designed to be opened from the deck.
Edited by Panther44 on 13 June 2007 at 12:03
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Pavel Matrosen-Stabsgefreiter

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I did not notice the sonar array either, and I assumed that updated towers could be installed on existing boats with some months of work. And today I learnt that no C/42s were completed during WWII. Thanks, Dan.
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dbauer Bootsmannmaat


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Hi Guys!
Yes the canisters were to be opened on deck. They were simular to the ready ammo canisters on the late fore decks of the Wintergartens. Many early U-boats were refited with the newest gear. Most boats that survived the war went through several changes during the war. So it is always good to do your research when building a model of a specfic Boot. Look at all the changes U-47 went through in a short span of approx. 3 years.
The Type VIIC/42 was never built during the war. All contracts for them were canceled when the Typ. XXI came out. Interesting concept the C/42. It was to have a thicker pressure hull, more tropedos, and better AA arms. Would have been interesting to see how they would have fared in 1942-43.
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